deep darc » eMail via XMPP » Comments http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/ deep and darc stuff 2008-10-28T15:55:23Z Copyright 2005 darcness <![CDATA[RE: eMail via XMPP]]> cheney http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-836 2008-10-28T15:55:23Z 2008-10-28T15:55:23Z To be more successful you would need something like mail markup language. I am currently considering writing a mail specific protocol. It would be XMPP based but appears to operate like SMTP.

http://mailmarkup.org/

]]> <![CDATA[RE: eMail via XMPP]]> brett http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-805 2008-07-01T14:19:11Z 2008-07-01T14:19:11Z Very interesting stuff. I guess the reverse would be fairly easy. Any suggestions on how to deal with forwards, bcc's, and emails as attachments?

]]> <![CDATA[RE: eMail via XMPP]]> sander http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-458 2006-06-02T21:08:08Z 2006-06-02T21:08:08Z fyi: http://users.telenet.be/s.devrieze/imail/imail.pdf

http://www.3pblog.net/index.php?entry=entry050702-180443

]]> <![CDATA[RE: eMail via XMPP]]> haiku http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-383 2006-04-10T17:05:24Z 2006-04-10T17:05:24Z Repalcing MIME with XML is not a good idea... legacy mail – to – XMPP gateways will have to spend a lot of resources repacking messages. It's better to just transfer the messages without too much processing

]]> <![CDATA[RE: eMail via XMPP]]> mibus http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-320 2006-04-05T22:43:45Z 2006-04-05T22:43:45Z I'd spell things out in full - <header> and <body> not <h> and <b>. It seems the Jabbery way ;)

I've actually played with a similar idea (replacing SMTP with XMPP entirely) http://mibus.cgcommunity.com/index.php?id=405

I went a different route though, using <message>'s. XMPP already supports alot of the stuff you're trying to wrap up (from, to - albeit not with names etc.).

]]> <![CDATA[RE: eMail via XMPP]]> darco http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-319 2006-04-05T20:51:05Z 2006-04-05T20:51:05Z There is certainly much, much more work to be done. This isn't even a protocol–this is just the first step. This post is just to get the ball rolling. :)

I have already written an XSL transform for converting XML-MIME to MIME. I'll be posting more information on all of this when I can get some time.

Gosh it would be nice to get paid for this stuff. (Google? You listening? I'd be happy to move back to Seattle. :D)

]]> <![CDATA[RE: eMail via XMPP]]> Jean-Louis Seguineau http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-316 2006-04-05T11:53:29Z 2006-04-05T11:53:29Z In addition to what Nolan said, I suggest you have a look at JEP-0131: Stanza Headers and Internet Metadata (SHIM) for a way to represent 'standard' headers...

As to the support by clients, this would either have to be built into new clients (new protocol implies new client support), or left to some server component to translate.

My 2cts. Keep going

]]> <![CDATA[RE: eMail via XMPP]]> Nolan Eakins http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-315 2006-04-05T09:26:22Z 2006-04-05T09:26:22Z You have more work than that. The major problem with a direct translation of the MIME email to an XML-MIME email is that clients don't and won't support it, though XSLT could help convert.

You'll need to get very friendly with a number of JEPs to get this going. For starters: extended stanza addressing (-0033), XHTML-IM (-0071), publishing stream requests (-0137), and file transfer (-0096).

Best of luck! This could be a boon.

]]> <![CDATA[RE: eMail via XMPP]]> darco http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-314 2006-04-02T00:48:58Z 2006-04-02T00:48:58Z I agree, and I'm working that into the spec now.

]]> <![CDATA[RE: eMail via XMPP]]> adruab http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-313 2006-04-01T23:10:07Z 2006-04-01T23:10:07Z It seems like content related tags would be better as attributes. That's assumes they're not oft extended and can't have multiple instances in mime specification.

]]> <![CDATA[RE: eMail via XMPP]]> fireflysoup http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-312 2006-03-30T22:26:16Z 2006-03-30T22:26:16Z Smarty Pants!

:P

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