deep darc » eMail via XMPP » Comments http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/ deep and darc stuff Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:55:23 +0000 http://backend.userland.com/rss092 en RE: eMail via XMPP cheney http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-836 To be more successful you would need something like mail markup language. I am currently considering writing a mail specific protocol. It would be XMPP based but appears to operate like SMTP.

http://mailmarkup.org/

]]> Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:55:23 +0000 RE: eMail via XMPP brett http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-805 Very interesting stuff. I guess the reverse would be fairly easy. Any suggestions on how to deal with forwards, bcc's, and emails as attachments?

]]> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:19:11 +0000 RE: eMail via XMPP sander http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-458 fyi: http://users.telenet.be/s.devrieze/imail/imail.pdf

http://www.3pblog.net/index.php?entry=entry050702-180443

]]> Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:08:08 +0000 RE: eMail via XMPP haiku http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-383 Repalcing MIME with XML is not a good idea... legacy mail – to – XMPP gateways will have to spend a lot of resources repacking messages. It's better to just transfer the messages without too much processing

]]> Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:05:24 +0000 RE: eMail via XMPP mibus http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-320 I'd spell things out in full - <header> and <body> not <h> and <b>. It seems the Jabbery way ;)

I've actually played with a similar idea (replacing SMTP with XMPP entirely) http://mibus.cgcommunity.com/index.php?id=405

I went a different route though, using <message>'s. XMPP already supports alot of the stuff you're trying to wrap up (from, to - albeit not with names etc.).

]]> Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:43:45 +0000 RE: eMail via XMPP darco http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-319 There is certainly much, much more work to be done. This isn't even a protocol–this is just the first step. This post is just to get the ball rolling. :)

I have already written an XSL transform for converting XML-MIME to MIME. I'll be posting more information on all of this when I can get some time.

Gosh it would be nice to get paid for this stuff. (Google? You listening? I'd be happy to move back to Seattle. :D)

]]> Wed, 05 Apr 2006 20:51:05 +0000 RE: eMail via XMPP Jean-Louis Seguineau http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-316 In addition to what Nolan said, I suggest you have a look at JEP-0131: Stanza Headers and Internet Metadata (SHIM) for a way to represent 'standard' headers...

As to the support by clients, this would either have to be built into new clients (new protocol implies new client support), or left to some server component to translate.

My 2cts. Keep going

]]> Wed, 05 Apr 2006 11:53:29 +0000 RE: eMail via XMPP Nolan Eakins http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-315 You have more work than that. The major problem with a direct translation of the MIME email to an XML-MIME email is that clients don't and won't support it, though XSLT could help convert.

You'll need to get very friendly with a number of JEPs to get this going. For starters: extended stanza addressing (-0033), XHTML-IM (-0071), publishing stream requests (-0137), and file transfer (-0096).

Best of luck! This could be a boon.

]]> Wed, 05 Apr 2006 09:26:22 +0000 RE: eMail via XMPP darco http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-314 I agree, and I'm working that into the spec now.

]]> Sun, 02 Apr 2006 00:48:58 +0000 RE: eMail via XMPP adruab http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-313 It seems like content related tags would be better as attributes. That's assumes they're not oft extended and can't have multiple instances in mime specification.

]]> Sat, 01 Apr 2006 23:10:07 +0000 RE: eMail via XMPP fireflysoup http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/03/30/email-via-xmpp/#comment-312 Smarty Pants!

:P

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